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Diskusi Kristen / 100 denominasi protestan
Last post by Andre Fantioz - Nov 18, 2024, 01:48 PM

  •  * Lutheran Evangelical Church
  •  * Missouri Synod Lutheran Church
  •  * Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod
  •  * Reformed Church in America
  •  * Christian Reformed Church
  •  * United Church of Christ
  •  * Presbyterian Church USA
  •  * Presbyterian Church in America
  •  * Free Presbyterian Church
  •  * Orthodox Presbyterian Church
  •  * Anglican Church
  •  * Episcopal Church
  •  * Southern Baptist Convention
  •  * American Baptist Churches
  •  * Free Will Baptist Church
  •  * Independent Baptist Church
  •  * Primitive Baptist Church
  •  * Seventh-day Adventist Church
  •  * Church of God (Anderson)
  •  * Church of God in Christ
  •  * Assemblies of God
  •  * Church of the Nazarene
  •  * Wesleyan Church
  •  * Free Methodist Church
  •  * African Methodist Episcopal Church
  •  * African Methodist Episcopal Zion Church
  •  * Christian Methodist Episcopal Church
  •  * Quaker (Religious Society of Friends)
  •  * Brethren Church
  •  * Church of the Brethren
  •  * Plymouth Brethren
  •  * Disciples of Christ
  •  * Christian Church (Disciples of Christ)
  •  * Churches of Christ (non-instrumental)
  •  * International Churches of Christ
  •  * Community of Christ
  •  * United Pentecostal Church International
  •  * Pentecostal Holiness Church
  •  * Foursquare Church
  •  * Vineyard Churches
  •  * Calvary Chapel
  •  * Word of Faith Movement
  •  * Hillsong Church
  •  * Bethel Church
  •  * Salvation Army
  •  * Moravian Church
  •  * Mennonite Church USA
  •  * Conservative Mennonite Conference
  •  * Old Order Amish
  •  * Hutterite Church
  •  * Bruderhof Communities
  •  * Evangelical Covenant Church
  •  * Evangelical Free Church of America
  •  * Grace Communion International
  •  * Full Gospel Baptist Church Fellowship
  •  * Church of God (Cleveland, TN)
  •  * Church of God of Prophecy
  •  * International Pentecostal Church of Christ
  •  * Christian and Missionary Alliance
  •  * Holiness Movement Church
  •  * Church of Scotland
  •  * United Reformed Church (UK)
  •  * Protestant Church in the Netherlands
  •  * Evangelical Lutheran Church of Finland
  •  * Church of Sweden
  •  * Evangelical Lutheran Church in Tanzania
  •  * Evangelical Lutheran Church in Southern Africa
  •  * Gereja Kristen Indonesia (GKI)
  •  * Gereja Kristen Jawa (GKJ)
  •  * Gereja Kristen Protestan Angkola (GKPA)
  •  * Gereja Batak Karo Protestan (GBKP)
  •  * Huria Kristen Batak Protestan (HKBP)
  •  * Gereja Protestan Maluku (GPM)
  •  * Gereja Masehi Injili di Timor (GMIT)
  •  * Gereja Kristen Sulawesi Tengah (GKST)
  •  * Gereja Toraja
  •  * Gereja Kristen Sumba
  •  * Gereja Injili di Tanah Jawa (GITJ)
  •  * Gereja Injili di Indonesia (GIDI)
  •  * Gereja Sidang-Sidang Jemaat Allah (GSJA)
  •  * Gereja Pentakosta di Indonesia (GPI)
  •  * Bethel Church Indonesia (GBI)
  •  * Indonesian Christian Church (ICC)
  •  * Zion Christian Church
  •  * True Jesus Church
  •  * Church of the Living God
  •  * Full Gospel Church
  •  * New Apostolic Church
  •  * Apostolic Faith Mission
  •  * Church of Christ Holiness
  •  * Bible Fellowship Church
  •  * Evangelical Presbyterian Church
  •  * Korean Methodist Church
  •  * Methodist Church of Singapore
  •  * Anglican Church of Kenya
  •  * Anglican Church of South Africa
  •  * Orthodox Anglican Church
  •  * Reformed Episcopal Church
  •  * Protestant Reformed Churches in America
  •  * Free Church of Scotland
#2
Pengetahuan Kristen / Re: PENAL SUBSTITUTION
Last post by saulus - Nov 11, 2024, 08:51 AM
Numbers 31 describes the account in which the Lord led His people successfully into battle, and which they gave to God an offering of the spoils as an "atonement" for them for His Providential protection and victory. (The term for "offering" here is "korban" which is a term regarding sacrificial gifts and animals, especially in Leviticus.) As with previous examples, it makes no sense that atonement can be made with sacrificial offerings if the Protestant theory is correct in that atonement can only be made if wrath is turned on an innocent substitute.
QuoteProverbs 16:6 By steadfast love and faithfulness iniquity is atoned for

Proverbs 16:14 A king's wrath is a messenger of death, and a wise man will appease it.
The first of these two passages is very interesting in that it explicitly says "love and faithfulness" atones for sin! That's very incompatible with the Protestant notion, but very much in line with many of the previous passages which demonstrate how atonement is made. The second of the two passages is about wisely appeasing wrath (through pleasing the king in some way), and makes no sense to say a wise man takes the wrath as a substitute.

Now, some might object that all of the above examples are of a different nature than the Levitical animal sacrifices, and thus any implications drawn from the above examples are (at most) of secondary importance to understanding the 'real meaning' of animal sacrifices (i.e. Penal-Substitution). While this objection has some merit, the burden is on the Protestant to show why the Levitical sacrifices don't (and cannot!) follow the same principle of the previous examples - anything less would be begging the question. That said, there is good reason for us to examine the Levitical sacrifices to see what can be drawn from them.

One of the most definitive texts regarding animal sacrifices comes from Leviticus 17:10-11,
Quote"If any one of the house of Israel or of the strangers who sojourn among them eats any blood, I will set my face against that person who eats blood and will cut him off from among his people. For the life of the flesh is in the blood, and I have given it for you on the altar to make atonement for your souls, for it is the blood that makes atonement by the life.
The reason why blood is forbidden is because it is the 'life-force' of all living things (not to be confused with the soul),  and thus carries a sacred function, making atonement. What is important to note is that the blood makes atonement in virtue of it's life-force, not in virtue of it being spilled. In other words, the focus here is not that something innocent took the death penalty, but rather that the value of life is of such a worth that it can make atonement for sin. This point is made especially clear in the New Testament:
Quote[Know] that you were ransomed from the futile ways inherited from your forefathers, not with perishable things such as silver or gold, but with the precious blood of Christ, like that of a lamb without blemish or spot. (1 Peter 1:18-19)
Here, there is a clear link between "ransom" and the lamb's "blood," as well as a contrast to how Christ's Blood infinitely surpasses the value of silver and gold. Thus, the point of the blood here has nothing to do with transferring a punishment, thus Penal Substitution is not the framework the Jews were operating within. With this in mind, the various Levitical sacrifices can be examined.
The four basic sacrifices were the Burnt Offering (Lev 1), the Grain Offering (Lev 2), the Peace Offering (Lev 3), and the Sin Offering (Lev 4). These could be offered individually, or in combination, all depending on the circumstances (for example, a major Jewish holiday could require multiple sacrifices, even many of the same type). What is interesting, or better yet very revealing, was that while these different offerings varied in function, they none the less were similar in their instructions. For example, advocates of Penal Substitution state that the instructions to 'lay your hand upon the head' (e.g. Lev 4:4) of the animal before killing it entailed the imputing of the sinner's guilt to the animal, and the consequent transfer of the punishment to the innocent substitute. But this is simply presumption, for nowhere does the text indicate this is intended to 'transfer guilt'. And that is not all, the biggest flaw in that argument is that sacrifices not involving sin, such as the Peace Offering, involved virtually the same instructions of laying on hands on the animal's head and killing it (e.g. Lev 3:2), thus pointing away from such an assumption. Rather, such an act of touching the animal's head must have been some rite of dedication. And the simple fact that sacrifices not involving sin were killed is a serious blow against the whole Penal Substitution framework. Another fact that militates strongly against the Penal Substitution system is instructions such as those found in Leviticus 5:11-13, which states that if someone cannot afford an animal for a sin offering, a sack of flour can be used instead. (Clearly, a sack of flour cannot receive the death penalty.) A final note is that often the one killing the animal and the one making atonement were not the same person, and this disunion of those two events conflicts with Penal Substitution. Typically, the sinner killed the animal, and from there the Levitical priest applied the blood according to the proper ritual in order to make atonement for the sin (e.g. Lev 4:27-31). Given factors such as these (and there's more), the advocate of Penal Substitution is not only assuming what he is trying to prove with the Levitical sacrifices, he is in fact going against the Biblical evidence.
Some final passages dealing with atonement that are worthy of brief consideration:
(a) Exodus 21:30 is a civil statute of the Torah, which teaches if a farm animal is known for being violent, and kills an innocent fellow Jew, the owner is subject to the death penalty, though a monetary "ransom" (Hebrew: kopher, see note above) can be paid instead, "redeeming" the owner's life.
(b) Numbers 35:31-33 teaches that murder and manslaughter cannot be ransomed for, and this is because such crimes are so serious that nothing short of the killer's own life can pay for it. This is significant because the animal sacrifices would not serve to atone for such sins either, directly disproving the notion the death-penalty can be transferred to an innocent animal (and thus the OT sacrifices didn't operate in a Penal-Substitution framework). In fact, the sin offerings of the Levitical sacrifices were primarily concerned with "unintentional" (e.g. Lev 4:2) and minor sins (not requiring the death penalty), where as major (intentional) sins had one permanently "cut off" from the Israelite people (e.g. Num 15:27-30).
(c) Closely related to the previous two points are the instructions given in Deuteronomy 21:1-8, dealing with the unknown murder of an individual. Since the killer is unknown, the closest village must kill a cow there to symbolically rinse their hands of any responsibility. There is no transfer of death penalty here since the actual killer is not going free. Instead, the concept being conveyed is that God abhors 'unsolved murders' because such is a monstrous injustice to Him and society.
(d) Atonement is sometimes made for non-living things, such as the altar (Ex 29:36-37; Lev 16:33), the land (Num 35:33), a house (Lev 14:49-53), and in such cases is used for "cleansing" an unsanctified object. Though this involved the killing of animals, it obviously couldn't have had anything to do with transferring punishment.
(e) A few texts speak of making atonement either by 'sacrifice or gift offering' (e.g. 1 Sam 3:14; 2 Sam 21:3-4), indicating atonement is made due to something's value and not a matter of transferring punishment.
Conclusion: After observing how OT Scripture uses the term "atonement" (as well as related terms like "ransom"), one does not see the concept of Penal Substitution being taught. Since the OT points to and foreshadows the NT, clearly one has no precedence from which to assume Penal Substitution is what ended up taking place in the NT, especially given Christ's sacrifice is very frequently linked to the Levitical sacrifices (especially all through the Book of Hebrews). Instead, there is both direct and indirect evidence clearly supporting the Catholic notion of the atonement, popularly called "Satisfaction," which will hopefully be covered in a future post.
#3
Pengetahuan Kristen / Re: PENAL SUBSTITUTION
Last post by saulus - Nov 11, 2024, 08:50 AM
"Atonement" according to Scripture - More Problems with Penal Substitution

Though the term "atonement" is frequently tossed around, especially when discussing Christ's Sacrifice, many Protestants don't realize how the Old Testament usage and understanding of this term actually goes directly against their own claims of what "atonement" means. The erroneous Protestant understanding of the Atonement, popularly called Penal Substitution, entails the notion of a guilty party having their guilt 'imputed' onto an innocent substitute, who then receives the punishment the guilty party deserved, and thus yielding 'forgiveness' of their sins. This misunderstanding is all too frequently projected onto the Levitical sacrifices prescribed by the Torah. A simple analysis of how the Hebrew term for "atonement" is used in the Old Testament will shine the proper light on how "atonement" is to be understood there and, by extension, in regards to Christ - Who is the fulfillment of those OT types and symbols.

The Hebrew term "kaphar" (H3722) means to 'make atonement', 'propitiate', 'cover over [sin]', 'cleanse', etc, and is used about 90 times in the Old Testament (mostly in regards to sacrifices, which we would expect). I will highlight (in red) some very clear examples of atonement/propitiation taking place in the Old Testament (where "kaphar" appears) that doesn't involve a transfer of punishment at all, but rather a 'turning away of wrath' all together.
QuoteGenesis 32:20 [Jacob] thought, "I may appease him [Esau] with the present that goes ahead of me, and afterward I shall see his face. Perhaps he will accept me."
The account of Genesis 32:13-21 is of Jacob reuniting with his brother Esau. For those who know the infamous past between the two, they will know the brothers were not on good terms. In this case, Jacob planned to appease ('atone') his brothers wrath against him by offering him a gift. In no sense was Jacob going to deflect his brother's wrath onto an innocent third-party.
QuoteExodus 30:15-16 "When you take the census of the people of Israel, then each shall give a ransom for his life to the LORD when you number them, that there be no plague among them when you number them. ... The rich shall not give more, and the poor shall not give less, than the half shekel, when you give the LORD's offering to make atonement for your lives."
Here, Moses is given instructions (Exodus 30:11-16) for a 'census tax' on the Israelites. What is especially interesting (and very significant) is that this 'atonement' is described in terms of a "ransom" (H3724 "kopher," which is very similar to the Hebrew word for "atonement"). This is significant because Christ's Life is frequently described in terms of 'ransom' and 'redemption' (both terms refer to 'buying back' something at a price). Here the ransom/atonement protects them from experiencing a plague due to God's wrath against disobedience. But nothing here suggests wrath is deflected on a substitute.
QuoteExodus 32:30 The next day Moses said to the people, "You have sinned a great sin. And now I will go up to the LORD; perhaps I can make atonement for your sin."
QuotePsalm 106:19-23 They made a calf in Horeb and worshiped a metal image. ... Therefore he [God] said he would destroy them had not Moses, his chosen one, stood in the breach before him, to turn away his wrath from destroying them.
QuoteDeut 9:13-29 You had made yourselves a golden calf. ... Then I [Moses] lay prostrate before the LORD as before, forty days and forty nights. I neither ate bread nor drank water, because of all the sin that you had committed, in doing what was evil in the sight of the LORD to provoke him to anger. For I was afraid of the anger and hot displeasure that the LORD bore against you, so that he was ready to destroy you. But the LORD listened to me that time also.
Exodus 32 describes the infamous Golden Calf story, which is retold at various other times in Scripture because of it's great scandal and sin. Clearly, the Lord listened to Moses' intercession and penance, making atonement form them and sparing the entire nation from total annihilation. This is a far cry from God redirecting His wrath onto a substitute, namely Moses himself.
QuoteNumbers 16:41-50 Moses said to Aaron, "Take your censer, and put fire on it from off the altar and lay incense on it and carry it quickly to the congregation and make atonement for them, for wrath has gone out from the LORD; the plague has begun." So Aaron took it as Moses said and ran into the midst of the assembly. And behold, the plague had already begun among the people. And he put on the incense and made atonement for the people. And he stood between the dead and the living, and the plague was stopped.
This is another infamous story of Korah's Rebellion, and here the Israelites are grumbling against Moses and God, which resulted in a plague across their camp. As with the previous examples, we see the theme of intercession (through good works, like incense) for the sinners, appeasing/propitiating God's wrath, and not an innocent party taking the fall.
QuoteNumbers 25:1-13 "Phinehas the son of Eleazar, son of Aaron the priest, has turned back my wrath from the people of Israel, in that he was jealous with my jealousy among them, so that I did not consume the people of Israel in my jealousy. 12Therefore say, 'Behold, I give to him my covenant of peace, 13and it shall be to him and to his descendants after him the covenant of a perpetual priesthood, because he was jealous for his God and made atonement for the people of Israel.'"
QuotePsalm 106:30-31 Then Phinehas stood up and intervened, and the plague was stayed. And that [good work] was counted to him as righteousness from generation to generation forever.
If the last few examples were not enough, Numbers 25 describes yet another major sin and rebellion of the Israelites. This time a new hero steps up, makes atonement ("turns away my wrath"), and rather than taking the wrath upon himself, he receives a blessing instead.
QuoteNumbers 31:49-50 "Your servants have counted the men of war who are under our command, and there is not a man missing from us. And we have brought the LORD's offering, what each man found, articles of gold, armlets and bracelets, signet rings, earrings, and beads, to make atonement for ourselves before the LORD.

#4
Pengetahuan Kristen / PENAL SUBSTITUTION
Last post by saulus - Nov 09, 2024, 06:41 AM
SUMBER : https://catholicnick.blogspot.com/2013/06/in-what-way-did-jesus-become-curse-for.html 

dI SANA di ulas lumayan lengkap ...

In what way did Jesus become "a curse" for us? (More problems with Penal Substitution)

Frequent readers of this blog know that there isn't any good Biblical evidence for the Protestant heresy of Penal Substitution. And because of that, they're forced to desperately cling to whatever they can to attempt to justify their error. One of the few primary texts they appeal to is Galatians 3:13, which speaks of Jesus being made "a curse" for us.
Everyone can agree that it's not enough to just make an assertion, especially on a disputed text. Instead, some actual exegesis must be done and an actual argument must be made. I'll say right off the bat that Protestantism doesn't have a leg to stand on with this verse, so all they can do is desperately assert that "curse" here means something along the lines of Jesus being eternally cut off from the Father and suffering the Father's Wrath. But if that kind of exegesis was valid, then the Arians would win the day when Jesus said "The Father is greater than I," since the Arians can simply insist this can only mean Jesus is inferior to the Father in every way. 
So with the Protestant desperation is clearly established I can go onto show how real exegesis is done. 
First consider the passage in question:
Quote12 But the law is not of faith, rather "The one who does them shall live by them." 13 Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us - for it is written, "Cursed is everyone who is hanged on a tree" - 14 so that in Christ Jesus the blessing of Abraham might come to the Gentiles, so that we might receive the promised Spirit through faith.
#5
Pengetahuan Kristen / Eusebius. The Ecclesiastical H...
Last post by Andre Fantioz - Oct 31, 2024, 06:47 AM
Link PDF :
https://antilogicalism.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/ecclesiastical-history.pdf

Link Internet Archive (Google Books):
https://archive.org/details/eusebius-ecclesiastical-history-loeb/page/n1/mode/2up

#6
Pengetahuan Kristen / Liturgi Suci Menurut Rasul Yak...
Last post by Andre Fantioz - Jun 27, 2024, 10:01 AM
Anaphora dari St. James
Uskup pertama dari Yerusalem (AD +61)




Doa dari Ciuman Perdamaian 


Orang yang merayakannya, dengan tangannya tersungkur, berkata dengan suara nyaring: "Ya Allah dan Tuhan semua, anggaplah diri kita yang tidak layak ini layak untuk keselamatan ini, sehingga tanpa rasa bersalah dan bersatu oleh ikatan cinta, kita dapat menyapa satu sama lain dengan ciuman yang kudus dan ilahi dan dapat mengangkat kemuliaan dan syukur kepada-Mu dan kepada Putra-Mu yang tunggal dan kepada Roh-Mu Yang kudus, yang baik, yang penuh kasih, yang memberi hidup dan yang konsisten, sekarang, selamanya dan selama-lamanya.


Umat: Amin Barekhmor


Untuk merayakan : Damai bagi kalian semua.


Umat: Dan bersama rohmu.


Dikatakan Barekhmor. Mari kita memberikan kedamaian satu sama lain, masing-masing kepada sesamanya dengan ciuman yang kudus dan ilahi, dalam kasih Tuhan dan Allah kita.


Jadikanlah kami layak, ya Tuhan dan Tuhan, untuk kedamaian ini sepanjang hidup kita.


Setelah damai yang kudus dan ilahi ini yang telah diberikan, marilah kita merendahkan kepala kita di hadapan Tuhan yang penuh belas kasihan.


"Sesungguhnya sebelum Engkau, Tuhan kami dan Allah kami.


"Wahai Tuhan Yang Maha Pemurah, Engkau yang tinggal di tempat yang tinggi dan memandang perkara-perkara yang paling rendah hati, berilah berkat kepada orang-orang yang telah menundukkan kepala mereka di hadapan-Mu, dan berilah mereka berkat oleh anugerah Putra-Mu yang tunggal, yang dengan Engkau ada kemuliaan, kehormatan dan kekuasaan dengan RohMu yang kudus, yang baik, yang mengasihi, yang memberi hidup dan yang konsisten, sekarang dan selama-lamanya.


Umat : AMEN


Orang yang merayakannya berkata, "Ya Allah Bapa, yang karena kasih-Mu yang besar kepada umat manusia, telah mengutus Anak-Mu ke dalam dunia untuk membawa kembali domba-domba yang telah tersesat. Janganlah Engkau menolak, ya Tuhanku, upacara pengorbanan yang tak berdarah ini, karena kami tidak bergantung kepada keadilan kami, melainkan kepada rahmat-Mu. Biarlah Misteri ini, yang ditubuhkan untuk keselamatan kita, bukan untuk penghakiman kita, tetapi untuk pengampunan dosa-dosa kita dan untuk mengucap syukur kepada-Mu dan kepada Putra-Mu yang tunggal dan kepada RohMu yang kudus, baik, penyayang, memberi hidup dan konsubstan, sekarang, selalu dan selama-lamanya.


Umat : AMEN

Bersambung......
#7
Diskusi Kristen / Re: PERSEPULUHAN MENURUT ALKIT...
Last post by DEO Gratia - Apr 02, 2024, 01:08 PM
Video:
Fakta tentang Tithing (Persepuluhan) dalam Taurat

https://youtu.be/8luNwBy2lcU?si=yBsYgj3F1tte1BsC
#8
Diskusi Kitab Suci / Re: SHABBAT Apa saja yg disebu...
Last post by saulus - Feb 29, 2024, 06:59 AM
Mantap sekalee ...

Ternyata dari segi bahasa asli dapat digali kebenaran yang dimaksud ... lewat terjemahan terkadang tak tertangkap ... makna yang dimaksud oleh penulis ... dalam hal ini St. Paulus

Nuhun pisan Aa ... WA313 WA313
#9
Reformed / Enam Belas Dokumen Dasar Calvi...
Last post by Andre Fantioz - Jan 23, 2024, 02:08 PM
1. Pengakuan Iman Gereja Perancis (1559)
2. Pengakuan Iman Gereja Belanda (1561)
3. Pasal-pasal Ajaran Dordrecht (1619)
4. Pengakuan Iman Westminster (1647)
5. Katekismus Jenewa (1542)
6. Katekismus Heidelberg (1563)
7. Ikhtisar Agama Kristen (1607)
8. Katekismus Kecil Westminster (1647)
9. Katekismus Besar Westminster (1647)
10. Tata Gereja Perancis (1559)
11. Peraturan Gereja Jenewa (1561)
12. Tata Gereja Belanda (Emden, 1571)
13. Tata Gereja Belanda (Dordrecht 1619)
14. Pernyataan Savoy (1658)
15. Tata Ibadah Karangan Calvin (1542/1559)
16. Tata Ibadah Belanda (1560-an/1619)
#10
Pengetahuan Kristen / Re: Liturgi Menurut Rasul Mark...
Last post by Andre Fantioz - Jan 23, 2024, 01:25 PM 
The Invocation of the Holy Spirit


The celebrant waves his hands over the Mysteries, and bowing down his head, says silently:
Yea, O Lord, have mercy upon me, and hear me at this time and send, from Your high heaven, Your Holy Spirit that He may sanctify this spiritual Eucharist; the Holy Spirit Who is of one substance and honor with You, Who appeared like a dove upon Your Only-begotten Son in the Jordan River and Who rested like fiery tongues upon Your holy apostles in the Upper Room. May He also, according to the abundance of Your grace, perfect me into a chosen vessel that is fit for the service of Your honor.

The celebrant stretches out his hands and, looking upward, says aloud:
Answer me, O Lord; answer me, O Lord; answer me, O Lord; O Good One, have compassion and mercy upon me.
People: Kyrie eleison. Kyrie eleison. Kyrie eleison.
The celebrant stretches out his left hand and waves his right hand over the Body and says aloud:
May He (the Holy Spirit), while blessing and sanctifying, complete this bread into the Body + + + of Christ the God.
People: Amen.
The celebrant waves his right hand over the chalice, saying:
And this cup into the Blood + + + of Christ the God
People: Amen.
The Diptychs
The celebrant, with outstretched hands, says aloud:
So that these Holy Mysteries may be for the absolution of offenses, for the forgiveness of sins, for the confidence and the shameless standing before Your awful judgment seat, for the glory and the edification of Your Holy Church and for the preservation of her children without sins forever and ever.
People: Amen.
The celebrant says silently:
Lord God, I bow down before You at this time and beseech Your compassion. Help me, save me and absolve my sins, my iniquities and all the trespasses committed by me as a man clothed in flesh. Accept from my hands this glorious and bloodless sacrifice. Exalt the horn of Your Holy Church throughout the four corners of the world. Preserve in peace and tranquillity all the days of their lives, her orthodox pastors, in particular, our Patriarch: our father Mor Ignatius and our father Mor (N),7 our father Mor Basilius8 and our prelate Mor (N)9 with the rest of all the orthodox bishops and by Your grace purify the honorable priest, the deacons and all the ranks of the altar.

Canon of the Living Fathers of the Church.
The deacon stands in the Royal Entrance and intones Canon of the Living Fathers:
Barekhmor. Let us pray and beseech our Lord and our God at this great, awful and holy time for all our fathers and leaders who are ruling over us this day and in this present life, who tend and rule the Holy Churches of God in the four corners of the world; our, venerable and blessed Patriarch: Mor Ignatius  and Mor (N), Mor Basilius and our Prelate Mor (N), that they may be confirmed by God with the rest of all the orthodox bishops. May their prayers be a stronghold for us. Let us beseech the Lord.
People: Kyrie eleison.

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